Celebrating the Prophet Muhammad Birthday is Worse than Committing Major Sins— Imam Muqbil Hadee al-Waadee al-Yemeni
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Discover why Imam Muqbil Hadee al-Waadee al-Yemeni رحمه الله explained that celebrating the Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ birthday is worse than committing major sins, with proofs from Qur’an, Sunnah, and Salaf.
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Celebrating the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ’s Birthday is Worse than Committing Major Sins— Imam Muqbil Hadee al-Waadi‘i al-Yemeni (رحمه الله)
Allah Imam Muqbil hadee al-Wadee al-Yemani rahimahullah said : “Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is worse than committing major sins. Yes.
Al-‘Allāmah Imām Sufyān Ath-Thawrī (رحمه الله) said:
“Innovation is more harmful to the slave than sin.”
This is because the innovator thinks he is upon guidance,
So he persists in his
innovation.
Whereas the sinner knows that he is a sinner
and is more likely to
repent.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said:
“Whoever lives long among you will see much differing.
So upon you is my
Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs.
Cling to it with your molars, and beware of newly
innovated affairs.”
(Abū
Dāwūd, 4607 - Sahih)
And he ﷺ also said:
“Allah has withheld repentance from every person of innovation
until he
abandons his innovation.”
(Ṣaḥīḥ at-Targhīb, 54)”
Direct link: source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oDw6VVdQqyI
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Additional Notes:
Who is Imām Sufyān ath-Thawrī?
Imām Abū ʿAbdullāh Sufyān ibn Saʿīd ath-Thawrī (رحمه الله) (97–161 AH / 716–778 CE) was a great Imām of the Salaf, a muhaddith (hadith scholar), and the founder of the Thawrī school of fiqh. He was known as the Amīr al-Mu’minīn in ḥadīth, a title only given to the greatest scholars of hadith. He combined deep knowledge, piety, and asceticism, and was recognized by the scholars of his time as one of the most trustworthy preservers of the Sunnah.
He belonged to the Tabiʿ al-Tabiʿīn (the generation after the Tābiʿīn), meaning he learned from those who studied directly under the Companions of the Prophet ﷺ. He combined deep knowledge, piety, and asceticism, and was recognized by the scholars of his time as one of the most trustworthy preservers of the Sunnah.
Major Sins in Islam
The major sins (Kabāʾir) include:
- Fornication and adultery (zinā)
- Rape
- Disobedience to parents
- Watching ḥarām movies
- Singing, dancing, and listening to music
- Drinking alcohol
- Taking drugs and intoxicants
- Engaging in ribā (usury/interest)
- Murder and unlawful killing
These are well-established as destructive sins in the Qur’an and Sunnah but these major sins are lesser than major shirk and bidah when it comes to the level of misguidance and burden of sins.
The Reality of Innovated Celebrations
The misguided leaders of Ahl al-Bidʿah (misguided sects)—whether they are imams, callers, presidents, chairmen, or masjid committee members—know inwardly that such practices are sins and innovations. Yet, because of arrogance, jealousy, hatred towards individuals and groups, and fear of losing donations and social standing, they continue outwardly upon falsehood.
Collecting donations (chanda) for
Islam is permissible.
But collecting donations in the name of innovations or major shirk is ḥarām and a form of
destroying Islam from within.
As I come from a Barelvi-Sufi background, and even today my community, family, and relatives celebrate the Prophet ﷺ’s birthday and consider those who do not celebrate as lacking love for the Prophet ﷺ, let me first mention this:
Even some Barelvi-Sufi Imāms themselves admit that the celebration did not exist during the time of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, nor among the Companions (Sahabah), and there is no evidence of it in the centuries that followed.
Even the Barelvi-Sufi Imām’s fatwa (ruling) is mentioned in their book “Rasail-e-Milad Habib,” page 112 (Safa 112):
There is no doubt that the Milad gatherings, as they are conducted today—or in the style presented by the journal Iman—did not exist during the time of the Prophet ﷺ. They are not found during the era of the Companions (Sahabah), and there is no evidence of them appearing in the following centuries either.
Exact Quote:
رسائل میلاد حبیب ملی میام۱۱۲ .
بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
اس میں شک نہیں کہ مجالس میلاد جو موجودہ صورت میں پیش کی جاتی ہیں یا جس طرز پر آج کل جریدہ ایمان" پیش کر رہا ہے نہ عبد رسالت میں موجود تھیں اور نہ عہد صحابہ میں اس کا ثبوت ملتا ہے اور نہ ہی بعد میں کئی صدیوں تک اس کا نشان آتا ہے۔
The Two Contradictory Paths mention by Shaykh Abu Iyaad in his Compilation book , get free pdf from here: The-Reality-of-Eid-Miladun-Nabi-Mawlid-written-and-compiled-by-abu-iyaad-salafi-publications, he mention that:
those who argue in favour of the celebration of the mawlid have two contradictory methods of arguing for it.
The first path is taken by those who are honest enough to admit that celebrating the mawlid is indeed an innovation (bid'ah) not known by the Righteous Salaf of the first three centuries of Islām. Upon this, they can only argue for it through the route of claiming that there is bid'ah hasanah (good innovation) in the religion. Hence, they bring arguments to justify this concept. Thereafter, they are able to argue indirectly for the mawlid. This is an indirect argument not a specific, direct argument.
The second path is taken by those who claim there is evidence for celebrating the mawlid in the Sunnah, whether in a general or specific sense. Those who argue using this method are the dishonest ones. This approach is also contradictory and incompatible with the first approach. It is used by those who distort the texts in horrendous ways with far-fetched attempts at claiming that a particular text is specific proof for celebrating the Prophet's birthday. When one looks at these texts, upon the simplest of reflections one can see that that they have no connection whatsoever to the issue of celebrating the mawlid and are just attempts at deceiving the ignorant due to bankruptcy in actual evidence.
Most often you will find people using both approaches. When one fails they will try the other, indicating their contradiction and bankruptcy in evidence. If it is claimed that there is evidence for it in the Sunnah, then it cannot be a bid'ah ḥasanah, since whatever has proof from the Sunnah is either recommended (mustaḥabb) or obligatory (wajib) and does not enter into the realm of bid'ah.
End of speech: Get the book here on “reality of eid miladun nabi(mawlid)” link: The-Reality-of-Eid-Miladun-Nabi-Mawlid-written-and-compiled-by-abu-iyaad-salafi-publications
The Role of Laymen and Politicians
Most laymen who join marches and demonstrations on the 12th of Rabīʿ al-Awwal do so for entertainment and socialization, not with genuine concern for guidance. If you question them, they sometimes behave worse than their leaders.
Muslim and non-Muslim politicians also exploit these gatherings—funding food, biryani, sweets, and drinks—to buy influence and votes.
Is Celebrating the Mawlid Major Shirk?
Celebrating the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ’s birthday (or the birthday of any Prophet or righteous person):
- In itself is not major shirk that
makes one a mushrik kāfir.
- But those who celebrate and allow
it are upon acts of major shirk
Iman(Aqidah) such as:
- Asking help and assistance from the Prophet ﷺ or saints
in their graves (barzakh).
- Believing Allah has given them divine powers and
abilities.
This belief and practice is clear major shirk with Allah.
Final Reminder
Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is worse than major sins because it is a religious innovation (bidʿah). And among those who celebrate, many are upon Iman(Aqidah) that are major shirk with Allah.
May Allah protect us from misguidance, innovation, and shirk, and keep us steadfast
upon Islam until we meet Him.
Āmīn.
End of Additional Notes
Two Important Points Regarding Mawlid (Eid Milād an-Nabī)
1. The Date of the Prophet’s Birth and Passing Away (وفاة):[1]
- It is authentically recorded in Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī and
Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim that the Prophet
Muḥammad (صلى الله عليه
وسلم) was born on a Monday and also passed away on a Monday.
- Scholars differ greatly over the exact
date of his birth — some said 12th
Rabīʿ al-Awwal, others said 11th, 10th, 8th,
9th, or even 2nd, and some even mentioned 28th. There is no consensus.
- Therefore, how can someone fix the 12th of Rabīʿ al-Awwal (or any other day) as a
religious celebration, when the exact date is not authentically established, and the same day is also
linked to the greatest grief of this Ummah (the
Prophet’s passing)?
2. The Innovation of Labeling it as “Eid”:
- In many Asian countries (Nepal, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh,
Sri Lanka, China), the celebration is called “Eid Milād
an-Nabī.”
- But the Prophet (صلى
الله عليه وسلم) clearly said we
have only three Eids in Islam:
- Eid al-Fiṭr
- Eid al-Aḍḥā
- The weekly Eid of Friday
(Jumuʿah)
- To add a fourth Eid is a newly invented Bid‘ah.
- Some argue the word “Eid” here is linguistic, meaning simply “a gathering.” But in
practice, it has become a religious festival — people gather, decorate, distribute sweets, cook biryani, exchange gifts, and
celebrate with joy.
- The contradiction: How can one be
joyful with sweets and celebration on the same day when the Prophet (صلى
الله عليه وسلم) also departed
from this world, which is Monday and birthday is also Monday?
⚖️ In summary:
- The date is disputed, and it coincides with the day of his passing.
- The label
“Eid” makes it a religious celebration — something never
legislated by Allah or practiced by the Prophet (صلى الله
عليه وسلم) or his Companions.
Excuses of Barelvi-Sufis
1. They say: “We want
to show the unity of Muslims in numbers on the street to non-Muslims. If we don’t demonstrate on the
street, non-Muslims will consider us fewer in number, less important, and inferior.”
→ But to show Muslim population, the real way is not by marching on the streets. It is
by having more children as our forefathers used to have (5–14 children). Nowadays, Muslims only have
1–4 children.
Abu Dawud (2050) narrated that Ma’qil ibn Yasar said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, “I have found a woman who is of good lineage and is beautiful, but she does not bear children. Should I marry her?” He said, “No.” Then he came again with the same question and he told him not to marry her. Then he came a third time with the same question and he said: “Marry those who are loving and fertile, for I will be proud of your great numbers before the other nations.” (Classed as sahih by al-Albani in Irwa al-Ghalil, 1784).
This hadith indicates that it is encouraged to marry women who are fertile, so that the numbers of the ummah will increase, and so the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) will feel proud of his ummah before all other nations. This shows that it is encouraged to have a lot of children.
2. They say: “If we
stop going for demonstrations on 12th Rabīʿ al-Awwal, non-Muslims like Hindus will ask,
‘What caused them to stop?’ and they will look down on us.”
→ This is an inferiority complex. The way to raise the status of Muslims is not
through street demonstrations (like dogs misbehaving and disturbing the daily lives of non-Muslims
unnecessarily). Instead, Muslims should:
- Have more children.
- Educate them properly so they pass government exams.
- Reach higher positions in government and society.
3. They say: “We want
to show our Muslim population in a non-Muslim country.”
→ This
is not the way to do it. As they say in Hindi: “Nazar lag
jāyegī” (meaning in English: “It will attract the evil eye.”) Population growth is not
proven by noisy street marches — it is proven by census reports every 10 years, which already show the
natural growth of Muslims.
4. They say: “It is
only remembering the Prophet and nothing else.”
→ Then why only
remember him on this one day? True remembrance is in praying five times a
day, following his Sunnah, and in tashahhud where we say: “As-salāmu ʿalayka
ayyuhan-nabī.” That is real remembrance without committing
major shirk.
5. The misguided imams who allow this know deep inside that it is a religious bid‘ah and not proven. But because of hatred, arrogance, and jealousy toward other groups, they justify it with anything that comforts their souls.
6. These misguided Sufi imams know that if they openly admit that it is religious bid‘ah and say people should not celebrate it, their public will humiliate them and stop following them. The donations that come in the name of “Eid Milād un-Nabī” will also stop. One of them even wrote a book claiming to prove the celebration from Qur’an and Sunnah, but in the end, he admitted it is just bid‘ah ḥasanah. This is a complete contradiction and an intentional lie against the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and Allah.
7. The ignorant caretakers of Sufi masājid and madrasahs also know deep down it is wrong and against the teachings of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم). On the Day of Judgement, the people of bid‘ah will have worse punishment than sinners. As Allāmah Imām Sufyān al-Thawrī said:
“Iblīs loves bid‘ah more than sins, because sins may be repented
from, but bid‘ah usually is not.”
These caretakers either want votes to gain status, money from donations, or just want to build relations with the majority for benefits. They know
how to use people for their own interests even if it is
through a bid‘ah celebration.
8. They say: “Don’t you want children to celebrate and enjoy?”
→ But why on this same day? Any other day can be chosen for enjoyment. Why the exact
day that was both the Prophet’s birth and his
passing (which was Monday)? This is similar to Christians
who say: “Don’t you want your children to have fun on 25th December
for Jesus’ birthday?”
9. They argue: “It is
Sunnah that the Prophet fasted on every Monday.”
→ Yes, but
that fasting was nafl (optional), not obligatory. And when
people fast nafl on other days, nobody serves food, sweets, or biryani for them. But on 12th Rabīʿ
al-Awwal, they serve food, sweets, and water from morning until night as if it is a festival. Even one Sufi
caretaker admitted to me(this barelvi-sufi chairman of the Barelvi-Sufi masjid and madrasha came to discuss
a dispute that happens between muslims on 9th Muharram night on 1447(2025) with my father, he said:
“We know it is just nawāfil fasting so it is not against if someone
doesn't fast”
But they celebrate it with eating, when the Sunnah of the Prophet was fasting every Monday, not eating in celebration of his birth and when people fast nafl on other days nawafil, nobody serves food, sweets, or biryani for them. But on 12th Rabīʿ al-Awwal, they serve food, sweets, and water from morning until night as if it is a festival.
10. They claim: “Our
nasheeds/na‘at sharīf/naẓm do not contain music.”
→ This is false. When we listen, it clearly contains music and voice mixing. And everyone knows that music is
ḥarām. So anyone who claims their na‘at does
not contain music is lying and deceiving people.
11. Finally, they can never prove that the Ṣaḥābah or the four Imāms celebrated it. And we all know the exact date of his birth is not confirmed. What is confirmed in Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim and Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī is only the day: Monday — nothing else.
📌 In Part Two:
I
will mention these points in detail and also compare this celebration with the Shīʿa practice of
commemorating 10th Muḥarram every year.
[1] Fasting on Every Mondays and Thursdays
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was asked about fasting on Every Mondays. He replied:
“That is the day I was born and the day I received
revelation.”
Sahih Muslim (1162), Riyad as-Salihin 1255
Additionally, he ﷺ said:
Al-Tirmidhi (747) narrated, in a hadith that he classed as hasan, from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Deeds are presented (to Allah) on Monday and Thursday and I like my deeds to be presented when I am fasting.” (Classed as sahهh by al-Albani in Sahih al-Tirmidhi.)
2. The Prophet's Death on a Monday
When Abu Bakr was on his deathbed, he asked Aisha:
“On which day did the Prophet die?”
She replied:
“He died on Monday.”
He then asked: “What is today?”
She replied:
“Today is Monday.”
References:
Narrated Hisham's father: Aisha said, "I went to Abu Bakr (during his fatal illness) and he asked me, 'In how many garments was the Prophet (ﷺ) shrouded?' She replied, 'In three Suhuliya pieces of white cloth of cotton, and there was neither a shirt nor a turban among them.' Abu Bakr further asked her, 'On which day did the Prophet die?' She replied, 'He died on Monday.' He asked, 'What is today?' She replied, 'Today is Monday.' He added, 'I hope I shall die sometime between this morning and tonight.' Then he looked at a garment that he was wearing during his illness and it had some stains of saffron. Then he said, 'Wash this garment of mine and add two more garments and shroud me in them.' I said, 'This is worn out.' He said, 'A living person has more right to wear new clothes than a dead one; the shroud is only for the body's pus.' He did not die till it was the night of Tuesday and was buried before the morning."
Sahih al-Bukhari 1387
Narrated Az-Zuhri: Anas bin Malik Al-Ansari, told me, "Abu Bakr used to lead the people in prayer during the fatal illness of the Prophet (ﷺ) till it was Monday. When the people aligned (in rows) for the prayer the Prophet (ﷺ) lifted the curtain of his house and started looking at us and was standing at that time. His face was (glittering) like a page of the Qur'an and he smiled cheerfully. We were about to be put to trial for the pleasure of seeing the Prophet, Abu Bakr retreated to join the row as he thought that the Prophet (ﷺ) would lead the prayer. The Prophet (ﷺ) beckoned us to complete the prayer and he let the curtain fall. On the same day he died."
Sahih al-Bukhari 680
Narrated `Aisha: Abu Bakr came riding his horse from his dwelling place in As-Sunh. He got down from it, entered the Mosque and did not speak with anybody till he came to me and went direct to the Prophet, who was covered with a marked blanket. Abu Bakr uncovered his face. He knelt down and kissed him and then started weeping and said, "My father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Prophet! Allah will not combine two deaths on you. You have died the death which was written for you." Narrated Abu Salama from Ibn `Abbas: Abu Bakr came out and `Umar , was addressing the people, and Abu Bakr told him to sit down but `Umar refused. Abu Bakr again told him to sit down but `Umar again refused. Then Abu Bakr recited the Tashah-hud (i.e. none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)) and the people attended to Abu Bakr and left `Umar. Abu Bakr said, "Amma ba'du, whoever amongst you worshipped Muhammad, then Muhammad is dead, but whoever worshipped Allah, Allah is alive and will never die. Allah said: 'Muhammad is no more than an Apostle and indeed (many) Apostles have passed away before him ..(up to the) grateful.' " (3.144) (The narrator added, "By Allah, it was as if the people never knew that Allah had revealed this verse before till Abu Bakr recited it and then whoever heard it, started reciting it.")
Sahih al-Bukhari 1241, 1242
Narrated 'Aishah [may Allah be pleased with her]: "The Prophet (ﷺ) died when he was sixty-three years old."
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3654 Sahih hadith
Allah's Statement to the Prophet ﷺ and the People
Surah Az-Zumar (39:30)
Arabic:
إِنَّكَ
مَيِّتٌ
وَإِنَّهُم
مَّيِّتُونَ
Translation (Sahih International):
"Indeed, you are to die, and indeed, they are to die."
This verse affirms the mortality of both the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ and the disbelievers, emphasizing that death is inevitable for all.
Allah's Question Regarding the Faith of Believers
Surah Al-Imran (3:144)
Arabic:
وَمَا
مُحَمَّدٌ
إِلَّا رَسُولٌ
قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن
قَبْلِهِ
الرُّسُلُ ۚ
أَفَإِن مَّاتَ
أَوْ قُتِلَ
انقَلَبْتُمْ
عَلَىٰ
أَعْقَابِكُمْ ۚ
وَمَن يَنقَلِبْ
عَلَىٰ
عَقِبَيْهِ
فَلَن يَضُرَّ
اللَّهَ شَيْئًا
ۗ وَسَيَجْزِي
اللَّهُ
الشَّاكِرِينَ
Translation (Sahih International):
"Muhammad is not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. So
if he dies or is killed, would you turn back on your heels? And whoever turns back on his heels will
never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful."
This verse addresses the believers, reminding them that the Prophet ﷺ is the best human(kahyerul bashr) and best messenger, and if he were to pass away or be killed, it should not cause them to abandon their faith.
Allah said in Surah Al-Imran verse 185: "Every soul shall taste death. And you will only be paid your full recompense on the Day of Resurrection."
Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was buried in Madinah very close to Al-Masjid an-Nabawi (the Prophet’s Mosque) but not inside the masjid. His grave is located in the Chamber of Aisha (Raḍiyallāhu ʿAnha), adjacent to the mosque, which is now part of the Green Dome area.
With all this clear evidence from the Qur’an, Sunnah, and understanding of the Salaf (Sahabah)—for example, when Abu Bakr (Raḍiyallāhu ʿAnhu) clarified to Umar (Raḍiyallāhu ʿAnhu) that the Prophet ﷺ will not return like Musa ﷺ after forty nights—there is no doubt that Prophet Muhammad ﷺ has passed from this worldly life. Yet, extreme groups among the Barelvi-Sufis, Naqshbandi Sufis, and some extremist Shias claim that the Prophet ﷺ and Awliyā’ Allah are still physically and spiritually alive in this world. They propagate this belief to justify asking for help and assistance from the Prophet ﷺ and the Awliyā’ Allah after their worldly death, falsely portraying it as not being major shirk. They even misuse several Qur’anic verses to mislead the general Muslim population.
Even children understand that Prophet Muhammad ﷺ passed away from this worldly life and entered the Barzakh—the unseen life of the grave. They are alive in the Barzakh but dead in this world, as Allah states: “They are alive, but you do not perceive it” and “They are alive with Allah”. This means that while the prophets and Awliyā’ Allah are alive in the unseen, they are not physically or spiritually present in this worldly life, as explained by Allāmah Imam al-Sinqeeti (Rahimahullāh).link: https://abdurrahman.org/2014/01/31/do-not-say-they-are-dead/
If anyone or any Sufis says to you, “Is Prophet Muhammad ﷺ dead?”, then tell him, “Do you even have doubt about it?” If you have doubt about this, then go and ask someone—ask those who have doubts like you, as I don’t have any doubts regarding Islam. Tell him, “If you don’t like the word ‘dead’ for prophets and Awliyā’ Allah, we will use a sweeter speech like ‘worldly death’ or ‘passed away from this world,’ but to say he’s physically and spiritually present and alive in this worldly life, even though he’s buried in Madinah, then you have doubts—so ask and discuss this issue with those who have doubts like you.”
This is how you answer them, not discussing or arguing at length, because how can you argue and discuss something which is obvious and whose reality is in front of you? If I am speaking to you one-to-one physically, and I say to you “Proof to me I am speaking to you right now”, of course everyone will consider me majnoon (mad), because something that is obvious and in front of reality itself is proof and self-evident; it does not need proof to establish it.
In the same way, even a child, when he sees the grave of the last Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, will acknowledge that the Prophet is no longer alive in this world, either physically or spiritually. But extreme Sufis and Barelvi-Sufis deny it, and this proves that they are majnoon (mad), which every rational human being can understand, as I have quoted from the Qur’an, Sunnah, and understanding of the Sahabah on the day of the Prophet’s death.
Imam Malik on Debating those who have doubts on Islam
“Arguing and debating about religion takes away the light of knowledge from the heart of the ‘abd.” A man said to him, “A man has knowledge about the Sunna. Should he argue for it and debate about it?” Malik replied, “No, he should inform [people] about the Sunna; if it is accepted [good], and if not, he remains silent.” Ibn Wahb said that when Malik would be approached by a person who follows his whims he would say, “As for me, I am upon clear proofs from my Lord. But as for you, you are in doubt. Go find another person in doubt like yourself and argue with him. ‘Say, this is my path, I call to Allah with clear insight, I and those who follow me, and I am not a pagan’” (12:108 Yusuf).
Source: Ibn Farhun, Burhan al-Din. Al-Dibaj al-Mudhhib fi Ma’rifat A’yan al-Madhhab, Dar al-Turath; vol 1, pp 115.
Scholars Don’t Debate Obvious Matters
Scholars generally do not debate matters that are self-evident or known by necessity—that is, things that are obvious and do not require proof because they themselves serve as proof.
A famous example of this principle occurred in a debate between an innovator claiming knowledge of the unseen and Allāmah Muḥaddith, Faqīh, Mujtahid, Muḥaqiq, Imam Muḥammad Naṣiruddīn al-Albānī.
In his time, a man claimed to possess knowledge of the unseen. People asked Imam al-Albānī about him. The Imam responded that the man was a liar. When the man received this message, he requested a debate.
During the sitting, Imam al-Albānī said before starting the discussion:
“I have some conditions (shurūṭ) before we begin.”
The man asked, “What are your conditions?”
Imam al-Albānī replied:
“Since you claim to have knowledge of the unseen, tell me what my conditions are? using your knowledge of the unseen.”
The man could not answer. The debate ended in less than a minute, and everyone understood that he was liar.
This incident illustrates a key point: knowledge of the unseen belongs solely to Allah, as established in the Qur’an and Sunnah, and He reveals it only to whom He wills. Any claim to possess such knowledge without proof is false and baseless. Source link: https://youtu.be/MDhgO6EYgOE?si=zzYUCCYEuiwXXM4f
And there is also one similar approach of Imam Al Albani with takfiri mention by Shaykh Saleh al-Suhaymi rahimahullah link: https://youtu.be/ANP3HU-r4-I?si=m0nVW9mPaQFsZsdm